Florida's Feudal Kingdom Law
In this series of Posts, I take a look at Florida
Statute 720 Homeowners Associations. This statute lobbied into place by
developers and lawyers essentially sets the stage to force you into an
agreement turning over a number of your rights and creating a feudal kingdom
where you have little say over the operation and management of real property
you have purchased.
The argument here is if you don’t want to buy into a managed
community, then go elsewhere. Going elsewhere is often not easy if you are first-time home buyer, looking for advantageous
financing or have a few bruises on your credit.
The fact is many people don’t even bother to read the HOA
Declarations before they sign the sales contract and once signed your in whether
you like it or not.
After the fact your stuck with no way out other than selling
and moving.
In the end it all about controlling you and a bunch of
people lawyers and management companies making a lot of money off of your
grief.
Read on.
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Here
is the bullshit definition of a Homeowners/Condominium Association:
A Home Owners Association (HOA)
is an organization of homeowners of a particular subdivision,
condominium or planned unit development. The purpose of a home owners
association is to provide a common basis for preserving, maintaining and
enhancing their homes and property.
HOAs are really about legally allowing a small
group of people to establish and operate what would be defined in medieval
times as a feudal kingdom where everything you as a resident do is observed and
controlled by the ruling hierarchy.
Investopeoia lists the pros and cons:
Pros
Pros
- Set and enforce community rules
- Protect property values
- Provide services, amenities, and facilities
- Offer self-governance
Cons
- Set fees, dues, and assessments
- Impose restrictive regulations
- Operate inefficiently
- Management amateurishly or ineptly
Here is a
“legal definition: (USLegal.com)
A Home Owners Association
(HOA) is an organization of homeowners of a particular subdivision, condominium
or planned unit development. The purpose of a home owners association is to
provide a common basis for preserving maintaining and enhancing their homes and
property. Most homeowners' associations are non-profit corporations. They are
subject to state statutes that govern non-profit corporations and homeowner associations.
The associations provide services, regulate activities, levy assessments, and
impose fines. Usually, each member of a homeowners association pays
assessments. Those assessments or dues are used to pay for expenses that arise
from having and maintaining common property.
Example of a state statute
defining Homeowners association.
9) "Homeowners' association" or
"association" means a Florida corporation responsible for the
operation of a community or a mobile home subdivision in which the voting
membership is made up of parcel owners or their agents, or a combination
thereof, and in which membership is a mandatory condition of parcel ownership,
and which is authorized to impose assessments that, if unpaid, may become a
lien on the parcel. The term "homeowners' association" does not
include a community development district or other similar special taxing
district created pursuant to statute.
From Investopedia:
A homeowners association (HOA) is an organization in a subdivision, planned community or condominium that makes and enforces rules for the properties and their residents. Those who purchase property within an HOA's jurisdiction automatically become members and are required to pay dues, known as HOA fees. Some associations can be very restrictive about what members can do with their properties.
If
you live in Florida in a condominium or a community with a Homeowners’ Association,
you may wonder where the authority for all of those laws and rules comes from.
Where
does the condo Nazi get his/herauthority?hHowtcanHthisagroupsofr“Officers”fcontrolcyouroprivatepproperty?operty?
The
answer lies in Florida
State Statute Title XL Real and Personal Property
Chapter 720 Homeowners Associations
Chapter 720 Homeowners Associations
Over
the next few weeks, I will be taking a look at HOAs and condo associations in
Florida.
Millions
of Florida residents are subject to the sometimes legal, sometimes illegal and
almost always invasive impact of these state legalized entities that often have
more power over residents in non-criminal matters than the Sheriff, the police
department or your local county or municipal government. Example: The Sheriff
cannot tell you how long your grass can be.
HOA/Condo
law is a quagmire of laws, HOA/Cond Association declarations and rules.
There
are some places to take your HOA/CONDO Association issues:
Tallahassee Office:
Office of the Condominium Ombudsman
2601 Blair Stone Road
Tallahassee, Fl 32399-1008
Phone: 850.922.7671
FAX: 850.488.3395
Office of the Condominium Ombudsman
2601 Blair Stone Road
Tallahassee, Fl 32399-1008
Phone: 850.922.7671
FAX: 850.488.3395
Ft. Lauderdale Office:
Office of the Condominium Ombudsman
1400 W. Commercial Boulevard, Suite 185-J
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33309-3791
Phone: 954.202.3234
FAX: 954.202.3237
Spanish Inquiries: 954.202.3235
Office of the Condominium Ombudsman
1400 W. Commercial Boulevard, Suite 185-J
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33309-3791
Phone: 954.202.3234
FAX: 954.202.3237
Spanish Inquiries: 954.202.3235
Don’t expect a lot.
Want to share your Condo or HOA Association story?
Scroll down to the Comment section and have at it.
Afraid to comment?
I understand. That’s another thing HOAs and Condo
Associations often take away from you - your first amendment right to free
speech.
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How Did You Get into The HOA Mess?
Florida’s Feudal Kingdom Law
In existence since the 1960s, HOAs
were developed for a multitude of reasons, including the following: They helped
developers by allowing them to transfer the day-to-day operations of their
properties to an association of the property homeowners once
a certain percentage of homes were sold.
By Jake Mitchell of Credit Donky: 23
Reasons Why Homeowners Associations are Good
Florida
Statute 720 is the primary guiding law for the establishment and operation of
Homeowners and Condo associations.
720.302 Purposes,
scope, and application.—
(1) The
purposes of this chapter are to give statutory recognition to corporations not
for profit that operate residential communities in this state, to provide
procedures for operating homeowners’ associations, and to protect the rights of
association members without unduly impairing the ability of such associations
to perform their functions.
(2) The
Legislature recognizes that it is not in the best interest of homeowners’
associations or the individual association members thereof to create or impose a
bureau or other agency of state government to regulate the affairs of
homeowners’ associations. However, in accordance with s. 720.311, the
Legislature finds that homeowners’ associations and their individual members
will benefit from an expedited alternative process for resolution of election
and recall disputes and presuit mediation of other disputes involving covenant
enforcement and authorizes the department to hear, administer, and determine
these disputes as more fully set forth in this chapter. Further, the
Legislature recognizes that certain contract rights have been created for the
benefit of homeowners’ associations and members thereof before the effective
date of this act and that ss. 720.301-720.407 are not intended to impair such
contract rights, including, but not limited to, the rights of the developer to
complete the community as initially contemplated.
COMMENTS
ABOUT HOAs FROM MEMBERS
Disclosure:
Comments
here are presented without individual references for obvious reasons. They are
taken from social media, Reddit, Facebook and other similar sources.
I've never heard of
someone having a good experience with an HOA. I understand they were originally
to keep property values up but I've heard lately they can bring them down
because people don't want to deal with the HOA. So why do they still exist? Is
it possible to live in a neighborhood and disband one?
My neighborhood had one
and decided to do away with it and right after that one of my neighbors started
a pig farm in his yard. So things like that could be a reason.
That said, I like the pigs
better than the HOA.
There’s
probably a reason why “Two-thirds
of people who live in the jurisdiction of a homeowners association” have a
negative opinion of them, “19% have been in what they call a ‘war’ with
their HOA“, “54%
of respondents said they’d rather live with a ‘sloppy neighbor’ than deal with
an HOA”, “78%
of those responding to the poll said they might consider NOT buying a home
because it would be under the jurisdiction of an HOA”
Because
HOAs have a tendency to devolve into petty tyrannies run by busybodies who
arbitrarily limit the esthetic choices of someone who ostensibly owns a home
and the land it's on. Which usually leads to bland, soulless, cookie-cutter
neighborhoods with 3 or 4 different shades of brown and beige trim and all the
same fences, sourced from the HOA president's brother-in-law, who happens to be
the only authorized fence installer.
HOAs can
also become feifdoms, with power-hungry cliques taking over control of a
neighborhood through HOA board seats. HOAs can be the source of much drama and
nepotism. As HOAs are private organizations, they are not subject to the same
open meetings laws and rules that municipalities employ in their governance.
They can suck the joy out of home ownership all in the name of "preserving
property value".
But the
problem is not just the board members and their petty authoritarianism that we
so frequently hear about. Those folks are just the public front, and often
puppets. There is an entire industry of property managers, specialized
attorneys, and other vendors that has come into existence to feed off of home
owners, because the law is so incredibly weighted against the home owners in
H.O.A. corporations that the home owners are essentially powerless.
HOAs suck
because they have almost limitless power and aren't required to provide any
sort of due process. Living under a powerful HOA that's out to get you is like
living under a totalitarian regime that has the power to ruin you financially
with arbitrary fees and liens. I will never again in life purchase a property
that's under the jurisdiction of an HOA, even if it means living in the middle
of a swamp. Give me liberty or give me a lease!
On the upside, 24% responded positively about HOAs. However, while a primary purpose of HOAs is to force neighbors to keep up the appearance of their homes, 54% of respondents said they’d rather live with a “sloppy neighbor” than deal with an HOA. Here are the results to this question:
What is your opinion of homeowners associations?
They’re great 8%
They’re okay 16%
Minor annoyance 21%
Major headache 48%
No opinion 7%
Plus, 78% of those responding to the poll said they might consider NOT buying a home because it would be under the jurisdiction of an HOA.
End of Comments
I personally have never
been in a conversation about HOAs when someone bragged about how wonderful
their HOA is.
I
will continue our trip through Florida Statute 720 in the next post.
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The Homeowners Association - Where Does The Power Come From?
Community
associations and Homeowners Associations derive their basic legal authority for
their existence, activities, and actions from state statutes (laws) and certain
legal documents.
Florida
Statute 720, specifically Section 720.301 Definitions Section (4) Defines “Declaration
of Covenants. These are the rules established by the developer or the
Association that will absolutely control every facet of your life on your property
and in your home.
What
are the Declarations in a Homeowners Agreement?
From
Fla Statute 720 (4) “Declaration of covenants,” or “declaration,” means a
recorded written instrument or instruments in the nature of covenants running
with the land which subject the land comprising the community to the
jurisdiction and control of an association or associations in which the owners
of the parcels, or their association representatives, must be members
If
you are already railing and thinking “I’ll sue them,” think again.
Scroll
down Statute 720
to Section
720.311 Dispute Resolution and read carefully. You will note that if you
lose at any point, you will pay your legal fees and those of the Association.
Further:
When you agree to purchase a property or condo in Florida that is a managed community or building you essentially
sign away a significant number of rights guaranteed under the US Constitution.
4.2 No Vested
Rights. Each Owner by acceptance of a deed to a Home irrevocably waives
any claim that such Owner has any vested rights pursuant to case law or statute
with respect to this Declaration or any of the other Governing Documents. It is
expressly intended that Declarant and the Association have the broad right to
amend this Declaration and the other Governing Documents, except as limited by
applicable law as it exists on the date this Declaration is recorded in the
Public Records or except as expressly set forth herein.
In Florida, Statue 720 was lobbied into place by developers and
lawyers.
For developers, it is a means to maintain control as a development
is completed and makes it easier to establish a revenue flow (HOA dues) for the
development of common property, for lawyers it is a boondoggle of revenue beyond
belief and for the HOA industry it is heaven on earth.
Doubt me?
Click on these links:
HOA Lawyers Florida over 1,000,000 hits
HOA Management Companies Florida over 2,000,000 Hits
HOA Industry in Florida almost 3,000,000 hits
HOA Lawyers Florida over 1,000,000 hits
HOA Management Companies Florida over 2,000,000 Hits
HOA Industry in Florida almost 3,000,000 hits
If you think, this industry is without influence, I called a local
newspaper and ask the editor if they had a reporter who covered HOAs and Condo
Associations. He laughed and said, “Oh we don’t get into that mess.”
A big part of that “mess” is all the revenue that comes from developer
and real estate advertising.
Why does the Florida Legislature continue to allow this type of
feudal land development?
Since lawyers and developers have major influence and lobbying
power in Tallahassee, it should be pretty easy to understand why the homeowners
are on the losing end.
There have been some attempts to modify State Statute 720, but
they are usually tweaks that benefit the industry and not the home owner.
If you are already stuck in one of these feudal kingdoms, your
just stuck, unless you want to gamble a lot of money, and be sure to note that
all the people who bleed money from this statue will do everything possible to
make sure you don’t win even the slightest concession.
If your new to Florida and thinking about buying a home, carefully
consider shopping for a development with no HOA or community association(almost
impossible to find) or just buying a lot and building a home.
Worried about amenities such as a club house, pool or golf course?
A lot of cash starved HOAs allow outside memberships. Even a big price is
better than a big assessment and a managed life.
Why don’t you send a link to this post to your Florida State
Senator or Representative?
Not sure who that is? Here is a link Florida Legislature.
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The Architectural Control Committee – The HOA Nightmare
If you
live in a condo or an HOA association-controlled apartment, residence or
property, your most likely interaction will be with something called the
architectural committee or its counterpart.
The
architectural control committee is established in the association’s
declarations or CC&Rs (Covenants,
Conditions, and Restrictions) and in Florida, it’s also authorized in the Florida
statute 720.3035. So, it’s functions and actions are not only provided for in
the condo association/HOA rules and regulations, they are also supported by
Florida's state law.
Generally
speaking, the people who migrate to the architectural control committee or its
condo counterpart are those most interested in controlling the lives of the
people that live in the condo or development, and they have a significant
tendency to be those least easy to deal with.
An
acquaintance of mine whose son was in his in the driveway of his recently
purchased home in an association-controlled community, was rinsing off his car
when he heard the clicking of a camera behind him. He turned around to see a
somewhat angry looking lady standing in his yard, who identified herself as a
member of the “Environmental Control Committee” taking pictures of his son and
the car.
A few
days later and envelope was found taped to the door with a $25 fine from the
Environmental Control Committee since washing your car is illegal under the HOA
rules. Obviously, a battle ensued; feelings were hurt, and my friend is looking
for a new home.
For a
more detailed look at the law supporting architectural control committee’s
click this link https://findhoalaw.com/architectural-committee/ .
Depending
upon the provisions of the association’s governing documents, the architectural
committee may be referred to as any of the following: Architectural Committee,
Architectural Control Committee, Architectural Review Committee, Art Jury,
Design Review Committee, Environmental Control Committee, Landscape Review
Committee.
An
architectural committee's authority and responsibility came from the Homeowners
Association's bylaws also known as CC&Rs(Covenants, Conditions, and
Restrictions)
Members
of the architectural committee are responsible for maintaining the aesthetic
and structural integrity of the association and enforcing the CC&Rs.
They
should be reviewing any applications for modifications, additions, or
architectural changes in the community.
The architectural review committee is
responsible for:
- Managing the change or modification application and approval
process;
- Monitoring the community for violations of standards;
- Fairly enforcing standards set forth in the governing documents;
- Making subjective and objective decisions about guideline
compliance;
- Making recommendations to the board of directors;
- Reviewing guidelines for adequacy and proposing changes
- Educating the community about set guidelines.
These committees operate
under the guise of “protecting property values," “maintaining aesthetic consistency," “external conformity," but frequently it is all about
power and imposing personal will than it is about property value or esthetic
consistency.
Fighting with the
Architectural Control Committee any of its iterations or the Association Board
of Directors is usually a losing battle.
The courts have made
it clear that HOA covenants are valid and enforceable provided there are clear
policy guidelines establishing the overall standards and they are applied
uniformly. Florida Statute 720 loads the
game in the favor of the developers, lawyers and the feudal kingdoms they
create.
Most year's minor tweaks
in the Statute 720 are made by the legislature, but these changes are carefully
watched over by the developers, lawyers and those that make significant money from
litigation related to Statute 720 impositions.
It just seems
unconscionable to me that the State would allow a situation where one of the
conditions of purchasing real property could be the enforcement of an agreement
that directly takes away rights guaranteed by our constitution.
It is way past time for
the Florida Legislature to take a serious look at the requirements imposed by
developers on their customers and make some changes that protect the buyer.
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